tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4809892888059311958.post9038897346953075422..comments2024-03-29T22:09:17.432+13:00Comments on Chasseur: The Oddity of TMP, and alternative Napoleonic ForumsChasseurhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04919997382932080898noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4809892888059311958.post-52053652789167339692022-03-05T14:21:51.777+13:002022-03-05T14:21:51.777+13:00It was actually Kilgore who said that, ruefully.It was actually Kilgore who said that, ruefully.Jon Snow?https://www.blogger.com/profile/18349064979919474482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4809892888059311958.post-64437128490211399442022-01-08T14:14:19.098+13:002022-01-08T14:14:19.098+13:00How can you dislike TMP intensely if you have neve...How can you dislike TMP intensely if you have never been on it? I agree with the rest of what you said... Condottiero Magnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11667975415138333878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4809892888059311958.post-70749245185552069642021-10-09T07:33:26.346+13:002021-10-09T07:33:26.346+13:00I think it's worth asking whether the Editor i...I think it's worth asking whether the Editor is pushing against the flame wars, or stoking the fires.<br /><br />I trace the real slip in standards to the creation of the ultramodern board, as a trojan horse to introduce a lot of culture war political themes. I believe the editor knew exactly what he was doing there - witness his own polls, threads and contributions.<br /><br />I like wargaming, I'm not keen on platting the rerun of the American Civil War.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4809892888059311958.post-49261197857895693112021-08-24T09:16:42.854+12:002021-08-24T09:16:42.854+12:00Ha yes might be a good analogy, thanks Rusty, and ...Ha yes might be a good analogy, thanks Rusty, and have fun with the gaming :)Chasseurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04919997382932080898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4809892888059311958.post-82440330846533060122021-08-23T23:37:53.493+12:002021-08-23T23:37:53.493+12:00I only game Napoleonic and find the sector very ge...I only game Napoleonic and find the sector very gentlemanly . I only checked on TMP today for the first time in a long time and found an old comment from you funny enough. I wasn't aware this hysterics from him was going on.I relate to caravan park owners who go batty after running it for a decade lol.I will keep to the FB groups in future. I havn't got time for fruit n nuts especially these days. Rusty Goldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09411463352518942597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4809892888059311958.post-31800887248547418142021-06-29T09:27:47.136+12:002021-06-29T09:27:47.136+12:00Thanks Shawn, yes the editor just getting tired an...Thanks Shawn, yes the editor just getting tired and grumpy with it all is understandable if he's dealing with lots of nonsense over the years. :) And yes even though this bog is purely Napoleonic, I prefer to take a positive view towards all sorts of gaming!Chasseurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04919997382932080898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4809892888059311958.post-75016240706801862282021-06-29T01:05:58.490+12:002021-06-29T01:05:58.490+12:00I have been going to TMP since I first got the int...I have been going to TMP since I first got the internet and found it as a resource. Not sure how long that is but quite a while. It used to be THE PLACE to go for wargamers, but the online community assets were very small. Competition started to grow and as that happened certain aspects of TMP fell behind, namely technical capability and to an extent content oversite. But it seems that in the past 3 or 4 years, and starting as far back as 7 years, there has been a growing number of trolls, "devils advocates", and other nonsensical drivel from many. Newer gamers would like you to believe its the older gamers, older gamers would like you to believe it is the younger gamers, but honestly I think it is simply people who have no true respect for others. Many put up opinion on TMP, and opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, but it doesn't mean all opinions are equal. This then leads to flame wars which quickly get out of hand. When I first got on TMP there was no dog house, this happened as a result of people just spouting off and not actually adding to the conversations. True this happens on FB as well on some groups. I run 8 groups for my own rules sets and I am the single moderator on 7 of them and I have no issues, at all. Now jump back to TMP, the editor certainly seems to be reacting in a very poor way to many of the, lets say clandestine attacks (because I am not sure they are truly attacks but he perceives them as such) on his site. You can respond one of three ways. 1) do nothing, 2) listen to the message and try and fix what people are saying is broken, 3) build up a defensive line and refuse to give an inch. As always the static defense never works and I think, truly, that his own method of resolution is becoming his demise. Could it be that he is simply getting past the years where he wants to deal with all of this? Or is there something more nefarious going on? I am not a conspiracy theorist, simplest answer is usually the right one. The one thing that I do find disturbing is how adversarial the various genres and generations of our little hobby can be towards one another. I don't care for GW products, but that is a personal issue, and has nothing to do with quality of goods or content, but I do like to chat with the 40k, MESBG, and Warhammer gamers and I do play Blood Bowl from time to time. At the same time I far prefer chatting WWI, Napoleonic's, WW2, and more often now Pulp or Gothic Horror. I hope at some point people realize that the shared commonality of wargaming is a far more positive attribute that what scale, what genre or what rules set you play. Glad I found your blog Chasseur, following now :) Cheers, Shawn shawnt63https://www.blogger.com/profile/05041985057548907170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4809892888059311958.post-78276873648965513002021-06-23T08:53:25.003+12:002021-06-23T08:53:25.003+12:00Cheers, I haven't visited in a while, except w...Cheers, I haven't visited in a while, except when old Napoleonic posts turn up in searches. I guess if the site dies those old Napoleonic posts will still be avaiable in internet archive services at least. Banning people for slights does seem an odd way to keep members and advertising!Chasseurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04919997382932080898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4809892888059311958.post-37577275851768053222021-06-23T07:54:54.775+12:002021-06-23T07:54:54.775+12:00I was banned back in August, 2020. Also for nothi...I was banned back in August, 2020. Also for nothing earth shattering. I check it frequently, but don't get much from it except when you look into old threads.<br />One of the things the site is now doing is posting what appear to be desperate appeals to "join". All I can think is how many have been banned.<br />But to get the flavor of what Bill is doing now, yesterday he started this topic on the ACW board:<br /><br />Relocating Nathan Bedford Forrest <br /><br />Its specious to think this is not click bait for his increasingly <br />right wing audience, and not "current events" and has nothing whatsoever to do with wargaming. But sadly, it has 22 comments. Far more than other recent topics.<br />Pan Marekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15911571952378565893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4809892888059311958.post-45891429762581789202021-05-29T13:39:48.074+12:002021-05-29T13:39:48.074+12:00Cheers and nice to hear Sir! :)Cheers and nice to hear Sir! :)Chasseurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04919997382932080898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4809892888059311958.post-71564323136224596222021-05-29T10:25:42.263+12:002021-05-29T10:25:42.263+12:00As a result of your post, I've resolved to be ...As a result of your post, I've resolved to be a more active member of the forums and communities that I'm part of. Communities are nothing but the sum of what we each contribute. So, thank you for influencing me to be more active in those forums. :-)<br />Admiral HawkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4809892888059311958.post-77753955875838632982021-05-06T12:46:42.039+12:002021-05-06T12:46:42.039+12:00Great points thanks! I've noticed increased fa...Great points thanks! I've noticed increased fact checking and moderating happening on FB to deal with some of the problems, so hopefully that keeps improving it over time. Would be nice if the Wargaming Forum and LAF can get back some of the Napoleonic quality TMP used to have.Chasseurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04919997382932080898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4809892888059311958.post-1906427950911835262021-05-06T09:55:07.308+12:002021-05-06T09:55:07.308+12:00Yes. It's a shame.
The Miniatures Page used to...Yes. It's a shame.<br />The Miniatures Page used to be a great forum.<br />Now, it's not.<br />It's a pity for two reasons:<br />1) There's no comparable place that I know of where a comparable depth of expertise (and willingness to share) In either Napoleonics or other historical periods now congregates;<br />2) Although I agree that the behaviour of TMP's owner is odd and some of the members aggressive, Facebook is far more disturbing, knowingly radicalizing its users by showing them ever more extreme and polarizing content. TMP is weird; Facebook is fabulously convenient, dangerously powerful, and a vector for undermining democracy and public health.<br />Anyway, personally I have found that the Lead Adventure Forum and The Wargamers Forum both offer a friendly outlet for wargaming news and conversation, though I admit neither offers the depth of Napoleonic expertise that TMP once did.<br />I love blogs like yours too, but the comments section isn't designed for discussion.<br />Please keep up the blogging so the rest of us can dream of painting as fast or as beautifully as you do.<br />Admiral HawkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4809892888059311958.post-28792594764676231802021-05-05T01:34:05.433+12:002021-05-05T01:34:05.433+12:00Yes, that's the sad part. Hard to understand t...Yes, that's the sad part. Hard to understand the shoot-oneself-in-the-foot-ery. Prufrockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17659918463589870423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4809892888059311958.post-6578824895731086742021-05-04T09:03:36.060+12:002021-05-04T09:03:36.060+12:00Thanks and interesting reading there, and I note t...Thanks and interesting reading there, and I note the same regret about the loss of what was once a good site. Chasseurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04919997382932080898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4809892888059311958.post-58173904427959833942021-05-04T00:33:57.789+12:002021-05-04T00:33:57.789+12:00Yes, recurring behaviour, unfortunately! My commen...Yes, recurring behaviour, unfortunately! My comment on the same phenomenon is here: https://prufrockian-gleanings.blogspot.com/search?q=the+tottering+giantPrufrockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17659918463589870423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4809892888059311958.post-25869107544895911432021-05-03T10:03:20.516+12:002021-05-03T10:03:20.516+12:00Cheers!Cheers!Chasseurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04919997382932080898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4809892888059311958.post-12363825341348361162021-05-03T10:03:01.883+12:002021-05-03T10:03:01.883+12:00Cheers, haven't been near there those boards, ...Cheers, haven't been near there those boards, but that doesn't sound great...Chasseurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04919997382932080898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4809892888059311958.post-36407641721769670142021-05-03T01:09:36.724+12:002021-05-03T01:09:36.724+12:00Thanks for mention.
As Colonel Kurtz said:
Some d...Thanks for mention.<br />As Colonel Kurtz said:<br /><br />Some day, this war's gonna end.Michael Stockinhttps://www.thewargameswebsite.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4809892888059311958.post-72842530868436678122021-05-02T23:47:52.487+12:002021-05-02T23:47:52.487+12:00Since the creation of the Ultramodern boards the p...Since the creation of the Ultramodern boards the place has become a den of culture warriors.<br /><br />Prior to that we could often go 2 or 3 months between calls for middle eastern genocide, or over-enthusiastic support for lesser Fascists of history.<br /><br />The whole place is infected with a creepy "Freeedom!! but obey all the great leader's rules" feel.<br />I wonder how many aspiring historical wargamers have stumbled across the site, felt the negativity, and sworn off wargaming as a result.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4809892888059311958.post-42879419015198886992021-05-02T02:53:43.573+12:002021-05-02T02:53:43.573+12:00Tango has been restricted to 4 or 5 posts per day....Tango has been restricted to 4 or 5 posts per day. For some it was a distraction that he posted 20 or more of other peoples blog posts without giving creditKhusruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03512587253133355625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4809892888059311958.post-81505869320880759162021-04-12T09:11:40.917+12:002021-04-12T09:11:40.917+12:00Cheers, it has been sad for me to see the reductio...Cheers, it has been sad for me to see the reduction in quality/quantity of Napoleonic posts in particular. There are some good ones, but mostly from the past now.Chasseurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04919997382932080898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4809892888059311958.post-83150796905263532002021-04-11T23:57:49.603+12:002021-04-11T23:57:49.603+12:00I have come to hate TMP. I hate to use this word b...I have come to hate TMP. I hate to use this word but so many people on there are Toxic to the extreme. It has really outlived it's usefulness. Tango grates my nerves as well, why rob pics from other sites just to post there but never really interact with folks.Kenshinzo7https://www.blogger.com/profile/06906937439245716066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4809892888059311958.post-23679231496168114992021-04-11T09:03:20.786+12:002021-04-11T09:03:20.786+12:00Cheers for the info Murdock, I tend not to visit t...Cheers for the info Murdock, I tend not to visit that one as much simply because it is broader than Napoleonics specifically.Chasseurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04919997382932080898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4809892888059311958.post-30798736629341768832021-04-11T06:41:58.471+12:002021-04-11T06:41:58.471+12:00The Blackpowder Era FB group has lost my connectio...The Blackpowder Era FB group has lost my connection.<br /><br />They shut down discussion about the lost leader marketing of Warlord for their ACW "epic" scale vacuumcleanerfodder (ahem) minis. The 'argument' was that as soon as pricing gets discussed then the 'negative' manners - or something to that effect - comes out.<br /><br />I view them now as a marketing arm of Warlord and not wasting my time on them.MurdocKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08693711825249632305noreply@blogger.com